51. Empowering highly sensitive & gifted adults through coaching & energy healing! Meet Gloria Jensen
What if the essence of giftedness extends far beyond a number on an IQ test? Join us on "Gifted Unleashed" as I chat with Gloria Jensen, an inspiring coach and energy healer with a mission to uplift highly sensitive and gifted adults. Gloria opens up about discovering her giftedness as an adult with a cultural background where such conversations were virtually non-existent. Her candid reflections on societal stereotypes and the emotional hurdles of embracing her unique traits offer a fresh perspective on what it means to be gifted. You'll hear how qualitative assessments and the support of professionals help redefine giftedness beyond mere test scores.
Gifted individuals often navigate a turbulent sea of emotions and self-perception challenges. In exploring these emotional landscapes, we'll uncover how connecting the mind with the body can be enormously transformative. Gloria shares insights on how gifted people frequently attempt to think through emotions, only to find true integration through physical awareness. The episode emphasizes the importance of acknowledging intense feelings and developing strategies to manage them, advocating for a holistic approach that combines cognitive understanding with sensory experience. Gloria's journey reveals how creative outlets and body-level work can foster profound growth, empowerment, and perhaps a touch of joy along the way.
As we round out the episode, Gloria introduces her blog and new podcast "The Inner Space," which serves as a beacon for those seeking self-discovery and personal growth. Through shared stories and free coaching sessions for her upcoming podcast, Gloria creates a platform for individuals to explore their gifted identity without the constraints of labels or test scores.
Be sure to connect with me through giftedunleashed.com for more resources and community engagement. Your journey into understanding giftedness and tapping into your potential starts here, and we're thrilled to have you along for the ride.
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Gloria helps neurodivergent adults to deal with their intense mind and emotions, develop deep self-knowledge of their "user's manual", and create a fulfilling and serene life. To discover how to develop emotional and mental serenity, click HERE and to create a fulfilling professional path, click HERE.
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TRANSCRIPT:
Nadja: 0:58
Hello and welcome to Gifted Unleashed, where we talk about the gifted and twice exceptional brain and how it affects our thinking and experience of the world differently. There are a lot of stereotypes and stigma around the term giftedness, and I'm here to challenge those. I'm here to raise awareness and to have a conversation around the topic of what it means to be a gifted and twice exceptional adult. Common experience among gifted folks is that they feel out of place. They don't quite fit in. They're too sensitive, too intense, too emotional, too overexcitable and too deep thinkers of the world and about themselves. So if you have been called too much of about anything, this show is for you. I'm Nadia. I'm too loud, too colorful, too bubbly, too bossy and I love to talk too much. So welcome to my world. I'm so happy you're here. Too bossy, and I love to talk too much. So welcome to my world. I'm so happy you're here.
Nadja: 1:48
Hello, today we have Gloria Jensen on the podcast. Gloria and I we met at the SEND conference in 2023 and we just hit it off, and I had to get her on the podcast because Gloria is a coach and an energy healer specializing in supporting highly sensitive and gifted adults. She is the founder of Gifted Interview published on her blog to demystify and inspire, and thrive at being gifted. Her approach is multicultural, at the crossroads of several European countries and now also the United States, she helps neurodivergent people deal with their intense minds and emotions, develop deep self-knowledge of their user's manual to create a fulfilling and serene life. So, without further ado, here is Gloria. Welcome, gloria, I'm so excited to have you on the podcast today. Thank you so much. Nadia, me too. Yeah, it was so amazing to get to know you and meet you at SANG. Nadia, me too, and I'm so excited to have you here today and share your story.
Gloria: 3:06
Yes, it was such a beautiful encounter for me too, because it was my first Seng and sharing that with you and like such a beautiful two, three days, I can't remember yeah it was short but really really great.
Nadja: 3:13
Yeah, it was also my first Seng conference and it was really really great to meet you, but also everybody else at Seng. So let's start with you. I mean the topic of giftedness, and maybe people can already hear a little bit. You are European. How did you learn about your giftedness?
Gloria: 3:36
So later in life, because I didn't grow up like I guess, from people who grew up in America. It's a bit more common to do testing at an early age. So what I've heard from Americans it's usually they know they're gifted, even though they might not know what it means exactly. I grew up in France where at least maybe where I grew up and it wasn't such a topic, so I didn't hear about it and it was more, like I can remember, as a teenager you would have the stereotypes of gifted is a math genius like the classical, someone who is super smart, maybe not super social, and like something that doesn't live in my reality and it's really later in life. I can't even remember. I was already working after maybe 26, 27 or even a bit later. I heard about it actually through a friend of my mother whose son was identified as being gifted and as she told her a bit the journey with her son and it's a very good friend for my mom and as she heard her speaking about a few things, she was like maybe I want to tell to Gloria about it and I was at that time living in England and we met. She gave me a book, a French book, which is really like a classic in this topic, and I was like OK, but she told me more about the sensitive part, like the emotional part, where she could recognize me and the challenges I had as a child and teenager and even after as an adult. And as she gave me that book, I was like OK, and I started reading the book and I had such a weird or special relationship to the book because on one side I was like wow, this is speaking to me so much. You know, like typically all the testimonials and you feel understood and you're like, wow, it's a relief, almost against my mom because like why did you give me this thing? Like I'm not gifted, like all the smart part that you imagine of being gifted.
Gloria: 5:47
I felt very alone actually with the topic because at that time I didn't do the job I am now doing as a coach. I wasn't so connected online so I was really not aware of all the resources that we have now. Today we have much more online. You just type around giftedness and you will find so many resources. So that was really the. I felt very alone and I felt like I cannot be arrogant and pretend to be gifted. Yes, I can recognize the emotional side and some of the challenges, but the smart side, the intelligence, was like I'm not, I'm not special, and that's why I was almost reading a bit the book and then I was putting it by side and then I read again, like read this back and forth.
Gloria: 6:30
And then I until I thought, okay, let's, let's find professionals to speak to and not just stay with a book by myself. And you know I wouldn't speak to anyone about it because really it's a quite uncomfortable topic when you just heard about it and you have all the cliches and stereotypes and I believe for also part I was going to say for many I can't say that, but it's like, oh, I can recognize myself some of the traits, but am I that smart, or that's the, at least the representation we have? And for many it's really like a break. You know, on your own journey you are like, well, no, you go back and forth. And then I was like, okay, let's meet a professional who does the test. And at that time I didn't know that one thing is to be able to do the test and one thing is to be a professional who really knows about giftedness.
Gloria: 7:26
And the first encounter I had was not super good. I didn't feel comfortable with the person. Yeah, just what I brought, and also because at that time I had done so much self-development work that I didn't bring some of the challenges that many professionals who might just be, like, I would say, superficially trained on the topic would identify. Ok, you are only gifted. You know, before they decide to do the test with you, they do a pre-assessment and it's kind of didn't fall in the I would say, the more negative side that is associated with giftedness, because I had done a lot of work on myself, I had changed profession, I had done a lot of emotional work. So I felt like kind of the more negative side, I was dealing better with it. So the person was kind of a bit yeah, she was like, well, maybe it's better to just work on the themes that come with giftedness, maybe let's see for the test. And just like I didn't feel understood at all, I was like, okay, I'm not going to do that with this person.
Gloria: 8:27
And I kept on searching and then I found someone who also and that was the difference who really knows about giftedness. He's training professionals about this topic. He's doing conferences in many different countries. He was not just actually that's not even his job, doing tests. He was really informing people about what it means to be gifted and I had a quick chat with him and I jumped, which is a bit crazy. I decided to train myself into really the topic of supporting gifted adults.
Gloria: 8:58
So at that time I was trained as a coach and I was like, ok, if I'm not gifted, great, I will have another specialty, something where I can help other people, and if I am, then it's the best way to enter in the topic. So it might sound weird for some people. I really jumped like in the big ocean, I would say, and not just tiptoe and see if I want to go in. But I guess it was just the sense. The intuition of this person knows what he's talking about and I really want to have the opportunity to dive deep, understand, ask all the questions I have, benefit from real professional, great support. And this training was over three days and, oh my God, that was whoa. So so many things came up during these three days because of course it was to support other gifted adults. But first, when you receive information, you receive it also for yourself and also, I think, as a professional whether you are a coach, a psychologist, you always need to do the work for yourself to then be also able to support other people.
Gloria: 10:06
So I embarked on the journey. Really it was super emotional. I remember crying in the evening about everything that came up. It was a playground, a beautiful playground, with all the people who were attending. Also, the training were gifted, so someone had already done the test. I really could go in with all my questions and that was, I think, the starting point for me to like OK. My body reacted and said to me you are gifted. Like I could, I could start to integrate in myself what it means, because it was really not the stereotypes anymore. It was like having a deep understanding. And then, after this, I was like OK, this is too big, too huge. I want this to be known by as many people as possible. You know, as, when you discover that topic and you see the impact it has in your life and I guess for you, for creating this podcast, that's probably one of the reasons Same, exactly same, yes.
Gloria: 11:06
So I was like, okay, now I need to talk about this. But because your clients are going to ask about the test, the IQ test, I want to still do it for myself, because I need to know what it is, I need to be able to guide people through that. So you need to do it for myself, because I need to know what it is, I need to be able to guide people through that. So you need to do it. So then I found a professional where I felt that time better and I did the test. But for me, I did the test without doing the test. It's because I already had this validation through the training I had done. I was like, for me, my body answered already, but I want to, and I did the test, like trying to understand how it is the kind of questions I was kind of more observing the test than really doing it and it was kind of fun and sometimes like I had a very weird way of how I did it, but whatever. So I did the test and then I go back to have the results and the person said well, you know, you have a, a heterogeneous IQ, so I cannot really give you an answer. And oh my god, the like I fall, I think I don't know like like falling from I don't know 50, 50 floor building, like I was. I I cried so much during that feedback session and I think she was a bit surprised as well by my reaction and she was like I just cannot make a statement. And for me I was like whoa, you know, having lived with a few months with the body knowing, and then I was like oh, and the test is unclear, and that was really so emotional. It took me. It was a journey then for me to say okay, come to the place of. Okay, maybe I'm not gifted, I don't know like. I again journeyed a bit by myself with it, also probably because of maybe I don't know if it was the shame or like all the emotions that came up with. So you thought you were. Now the test didn't validate, kind of the official validation, what, what do I do now with that? And I really went on a journey to OK. And it's fun because I came to the point where I was like OK, maybe you are not, but this topic is still too important, you still need to talk about it. And that's really fun because I was like OK, even though you don't know for yourself like you need to talk about it.
Gloria: 13:25
And then I went back actually to the person who trained me and then he told me but do you remember that section of the training where I tell you and I tell to everyone that when the results are not homogeneous and there is heterogeneity, that's where, depending on the professional you have, they will dare or not to make the move, and that's like the gray zone where it really depends on the professional you have in front of you. And it's fun because at that time he told me it's perfect, you know, you've made the experience that some people, some of your client, will do, and you will be able to hold this process. On the emotional side, you will be able to explain it to them and like it's great. And and that was like okay, yes, and at. From that point I really started also to dig deeper into like the test, the IQ test how does it work, what are the limits, what can have an impact. And it's fun because that happened really many years ago now.
Gloria: 14:28
And, to make it short, then I was like, ok, I still want to talk about that topic.
Gloria: 14:33
And I had my own digestion of everything that happened and I had then really focused on supporting gifted adults and I had then really focused on supporting gifted adults and I guess my journey also went forth with every client I helped with, like I had then groups also of gifted and talented women, and of course clients brought the same similar situations, situations and and also my clients really helped me in that journey, also for myself, until a point where now today, if I really I make a big jump to where I am today, it's, and for people who might have had or will have these experiences, really having that understanding that the IQ test is one thing first it wasn't created to identify giftedness, that being gifted is hardly summarized by the IQ test, and that you can fail into brackets, the IQ test, and still be gifted, and now I am fully at peace, now it's not a question anymore for me.
Gloria: 15:37
But it really was a process and it took time and, as you can imagine, it was an emotional roller coaster, but again it's like when you have this heterogeneity, it's how the professional responds to it that can have a huge impact.
Nadja: 15:52
Oh, it resonates so much with me, your story, because I had a similar experience right where I, you know, came across this topic, learned about it, jumped into podcasting because I just wanted to get all the knowledge from the experts and people working in the space, and just hit record doing this podcast and then, through the ADHD diagnosis, got the opportunity to do an IQ test. At that point I was already warned in the community, you know, be careful. And I was like, oh, but it's kind of like a self-experiment, you know, I want to do it, so I can, so I know what it is and what it is about and, as you said, like a little self-ex, self experiment. And I had a very, very similar experience. The person had no idea about you know what it means to be gifted. She didn't even know the term twice exceptional, you know. And so having a spiky profile and yeah, so quote unquote, not gifted on the IQ score.
Nadja: 16:59
And I said, well, if I have, you know, adhd and executive functioning issues, wouldn't that impair me taking this test? And yeah, and then there were other layers. You know I had eyesight issue at the time I had. The test is a German test, I'm Swiss, it's a different. You know vocabulary, everything. So there are multiple layers and, as you said, like having this result come back and I'm like, oh, but can I still do a podcast about giftedness? Yeah, so I really understand, but at the time I was already in contact with Jen from Intergifted and I reached out and I did an assessment with her.
Nadja: 17:46
So not the quantitative but the qualitative assessment, and really that was also more helpful for me to also see the profile of giftedness, of giftedness like it's more than just a number. You really understand, you know what it means and how you experience, interact with the world. So it highly resonates with what you're saying. And, you know, when I talked to Paula Prober, she told me that you know all these levels of giftedness you know mildly, moderately, you know highly, and she calls herself barely gifted. And I was like, oh, I embrace that barely gifted. So that's when how I then, you know, got back on my feet and said, okay, I just call myself barely gifted and I can still, you know, be in this space and nobody except myself ever questioned it. You know nobody tells you in this space and nobody except myself ever questioned it. You know, nobody tells you in this space you're not welcome here.
Gloria: 18:47
Yeah, and it's so important because you mentioned so many things and it's like for people to check, like, how is my eyesight, how is my hearing, how is exact like the conversation effect, or like with ADHD or other twice exceptional characteristics and all these things. I also didn't know at all about it like it's really a learning process, if it's your language or not, as you said, the difference between swiss, german and german, like. I also have a very different perspective now because I know I did the test. There were questions she asked me I didn't even like, I was like, oh, I don't know, I like I really didn't do it seriously as well. So there are many things that after I understood and also maybe it's interesting.
Gloria: 19:32
You know, for me my vision also of giftedness has expanded and I, like Marie Rocamara, who talked also about the spiritual side and also some others speak about it, and for me it's so much more than the IQ and also, of course, having worked now five years with gifted adults, I see what really means intelligence as being not at all about IQ.
Gloria: 20:00
I see like it's sometimes hard to describe, but I see where is the giftedness in them and it's very different from person to person. So even when you say highly profoundly gifted, they experience different things as gifted. But for me it's not even more a scale you know, of course, that that plays also a role but it's more not thinking vertically but more horizontally, like what makes you be gifted and maybe you are diving super deep and fast and in spirituality and having developed very different levels of consciousness, having access to a different reality. Maybe it's in science, you know what would be more stereotypically associated with giftedness, and so it's like really it's a journey to go and meet yourself and how it's expressed for you thank you for sharing that, and that's how you support your clients, right?
Nadja: 21:02
you take these clients, or your clients, on this journey of self-discovery. And also this how to deal with the intense emotions and how you know, I think, a lot of gifted people. I think you mentioned that they're disconnected or overwhelmed by their own emotions. Do you want to share a little bit about that?
Gloria: 21:26
yeah, because we're like working and and like building my experience. I was like, okay, what's actually the what are the biggest challenge for gifted people in their relationship with themselves, and of course that has an impact on the relationship with the world. And for me, like it's the intensity and complexity of their mental and emotional life. And you know, often we say like, oh, I don't know how to put my brain off, I don't know how to stop thinking. I feel everything so deeply and it's sometimes overwhelming. I often like to say it's okay how you operate, it's not possible to change that. You will, like you will always have a probably quicker, more like the rainforest mind because you already talked about the polar and that's like, yes, I cannot change you in the sense of you will feel things more deeply. You will have a different experience than other people who don't have this high level of sensitivity in that experience of the world. But you can change, like how you deal with that and once you know, you can also validate yourself and adapting more to your needs.
Gloria: 22:43
And on the emotional side, what I see is usually, you know, two main behaviors is either I disconnect because it's just too much, and I can so understand that behavior, because if you've never learned to deal with what's happening inside and it's super intense, let's better disconnect because it's like I cannot, I don't know what to do with it, it's too much.
Gloria: 23:05
So let's just not feel anymore and just live in my brain and that's fine. And if you've never learned like it's, it's totally understandable. And the other side is I'm, I'm like almost, it feels like I'm too connected or it feels like this overwhelm that can come through the emotions. And in both sides it's actually you try to control, which might sound weird, because of course, when you're disconnected, okay, I'm controlling, I'm just like off, kind of, and but also when you're overwhelmed, there is a trying to control. You are not really making space for what you're feeling and and supporting it, like going with your emotions. And again I'm saying that if you've never learned it, it's normal that you don't know how to do it Like I've learned it. I really. I think that's probably also one of the biggest work on myself I've done and still spend time daily or weekly on how am I feeling, what's exactly happening, what's the trigger?
Gloria: 24:07
And making space and now really addressing what's happening, because emotions, like we, are human beings so that's part of everyday life and I will always feel things more deeply intensely, you know, just, maybe sometimes listening, you could listen to this podcast or listen to read a book and start crying and see a movie, and it's like, okay, one side is like the all the we would say positive or at least enjoyable emotions, and then it's like, okay, how do you deal with and I like to not frame them as negative, because it's like every emotion informs you, gives you a message. It's like how do I deal with the part that none of us really want to feel, like we don't like to suffer, like who wants to? Oh, I would love to be sad, I would love to be angry. Well, I understand, no, but if this emotion is coming up, it's there to really give you a message. And that's where I focus a lot is because it's such a big challenge.
Gloria: 25:04
You know, being gifted, your brain is so present and you love also to think that there is also that part. You know you love to think, to learn, to hear, to be challenged, to imagine. And at the same time, it's like can you also move in your life with your body? Like, what is your body telling you about the situation and the emotion for me is one of the ideal way also to connect to the body.
Gloria: 25:31
And maybe it starts just with sensation, because especially when we haven't worked on emotion, it's hard to sometimes just you can say I feel bad, I feel good, but you might not have the vocabulary yet. You can start also just with your sensation, like, well, I feel, like I don't know, I feel oppression in my chest or I have belly pain or what's what's happening. So really reconnecting gifted people with their body, because that's where I would say you can, like, really go in all your, your power and your potential, when you have this connection between your mind and your body. Again, it's normal if, like today, you might not have it, but, if I can invite people to dig deeper, there is a lot of treasures there, also to know more about yourself.
Nadja: 26:20
Oh, thank you for sharing this and also, you know, to again amplify this message of you know, a lot of gifted people are stuck in their heads, but we need to get down, get down into the body and feel the body and feel the emotions. And I think, because we're cognitively fast, usually we try to think our way through problems or think our way out of emotions or, you know also sometimes 100%, or you go to therapy and you're like, oh, I understand where the problem lies, but you haven't really integrated it right. It really needs this process through the body yes, and here you are phrasing.
Gloria: 27:09
A solution that I also love always to really emphasize is when you feel stuck in your self-actualization journey and you say exactly what Nadia said like't see healing and transformation, real transformation if you don't connect to your body. So if you want to integrate what you now know or understood, you need to work on a body level.
Gloria: 27:45
And that's at least my way. It's like connecting to what really it feels like. My way it's like connecting to what really it feels like and also because you know, the gifted journey might bring up many things. Of all, when I was a teenager, when I was a kid, that's what happened I felt shame, I felt guilty, I felt too much, and all these things you can process them intellectually. I'm just trying to make it more concrete with an example and understand and what it would mean to process it with the body is. Well, how did I feel at that time? Maybe you are going to need to cry. Maybe you need to transform that emotional state through your creativity. Maybe you're going to sing a song, do a painting, go in nature, have a walk and just reconnect to that child you were or to that experience. That's what I mean at least to just give some concrete examples with, like connecting to the feeling attached to the experience.
Nadja: 28:43
And where is then the line that what you do as a coach and therapy? Because I think now you really brushed. There is a line, right?
Gloria: 28:55
Yes, that's a very good question and I will be clear. So I'm trained as a coach, I'm not a therapist. But I've done so many other training like beyond coaching, to really learn about emotions and support people with emotions. And it's true that the classical coaching training usually doesn't involve all the emotional work. It's more like mindset work, belief work, so more working on with the mind. But I at some point saw that it and also I was interested in more. I saw that it's especially for gifted people, as we described just before. It's that you can understand but the change doesn't happen. And also seeing that in my journey my emotions were a big part of them. So that's why I bring also the topic of emotions and I don't work as a therapist on emotion If I make it very simple and basic.
Gloria: 29:48
I say to people we don't need to dig into the past, analyze maybe as you would do it in therapy, and maybe that's what you need Like, really you need to know, but the emotional work I do is really just releasing the emotion. We don't need to go and tell the story again, understand everything. You might not even know exactly what happened. We just need to connect to what. How does my body feel what's the emotion and how can I release it.
Gloria: 30:17
And there I'm not doing coaching anymore. I can do well, you could have it also with some coaching but like, really energy work. I do it through art. There you could say art therapy as well. Yes, even though it's not as a therapist, I help people release emotions and emotional states that are stuck through art. I do it, which is energy work, and I also do it, like, sometimes during the session, guiding people in their body and whether it's through visualization or speaking to the parts of themselves that are coming up with the situation, which again like, yes, I see, and for people who have experienced their connection with therapy. So I don't have a straight line between coaching and therapy, just because I've learned different tools and approaches and I just use what the client needs.
Nadja: 31:08
But obviously, if you see that a person needs classical you know more profound gifted therapy, you would probably refer them right.
Gloria: 31:18
A hundred percent and I always say, okay, that's that's. I'm very clear with and honest with people. I'm like the situation you are bringing, I know we can work on it. Through what I can bring you, that would be more with a therapist or if it's a heavy trauma, for example, and they need to talk about it, go through it. But really, like I see it working very smoothly with my clients, I just share them, they understand and then we already, through all the tools I bring. The work I do is deep. I remember also doing, uh like a master class and someone said, well, it's not just superficial work I do, I go deep. That's why also sometimes you could reconnect also to to therapy. I would say I, I don't really care about. Is it coaching, is it therapy I just care about is it effective and is it helping people? And do I feel comfortable, of course, myself to guide people through it? If not, then I'm going to send them somewhere else where it's more appropriate and you just shared as well.
Nadja: 32:25
Like it is hard work, right, it is deep, it simple, but it's not easy, right, it's this again, you need to go through it, just cognitively understanding the concept of like, oh yeah, okay, I'm going to release, you know my emotions and the energy, but it's work, yeah, yeah.
Gloria: 32:50
It is real work, deep work, deep work. Like it's challenging, I don't know if I would. I try at least to to make it as still enjoyable. It might sound weird but bring either lightness, joy or for me and that's where I why also I work around emotions, even difficult emotions, you can face them with a smile, with compassion. We don't have to be in something very difficult, hard. We can, in the approach and how we work on it, have this lighter, hopeful touch in moving through it. Because, again, like what we would see like as very negative state, for me they are not negative. They are just a process of doing the work so that, like going through the shadow, so that you get to the gift and what is really there for you.
Nadja: 33:48
And to empower them to live to their fullest self and the self-knowledge of like your path is not the correct one. You should be doing this, and why don't you? Why won't you? Right and just understanding that your path is actually the right one, that you're on?
Gloria: 34:28
Yeah, 100%. I just wanted to ask you.
Nadja: 34:30
Yeah, 100%. I just wanted to ask you. So you said in the beginning that when you learned about your giftedness that you wanted to share this with the world and you shared your story of embracing coaching and straight jumped into gifted coaching. But you're also doing other things, right. Would you like to share what else you do and how you spread the word of giftedness?
Gloria: 34:58
So I like one resource and really like one, like we give, as you are doing, you know free resources so that people can already move. I think there is already a lot on our free side and then, of course, if you want transformation in your life, like, you will need to invest and get professional support, but already on the free side. Because, as you've heard my journey, I felt quite alone and with many questions and not willing to be kind of and that was my perspective but arrogant as seeing myself as gifted. I created a blog. It's very simple. It's like you go my name, gloria Jensen, and then to the blog section and here you have stories of gifted adults. I was like I want to hear gifted adult stories, a bit like what you asked me and what you're doing at the beginning of the podcast, and I really like super specific questions about how do they live it personally, professionally, how was their experience of the test, what does gifted mean for them, and digging into their personal stories, because that's what people can relate to and can like feel an echo to who they are. And I felt it's for many people who are wondering if they're gifted or not, for many people who are wondering if they are gifted or not. It's a gentle way to enter in the topic and kind of move with the topic step by step and see that there is a variety, because that was important for me.
Gloria: 36:23
I didn't know at that time when I started my journey, like you can be gifted in so many different ways and you have, like I, interviewed gifted professionals but also gifted people whom it's not their, like their work topic. They just have their own journey with their giftedness, so that people don't associate, oh, you need to be professional to be happy and fulfilled and and that's like how, like I've been doing for many years to to share their stories. And even people who are and know they are gifted. It helps them because they say, of course you have an echo to how you are and it's always useful to either hear or read people sharing your inner experience. It helps you validate it. That's the wonderful part and I guess for many listeners of your podcast, that's what they are experiencing. You know the validation that comes from. Oh, I'm not the only one feeling that.
Nadja: 37:14
Yeah, exactly that was. The reason for this podcast was just, you know, to explore why people go into the gifted professional side. But usually if you work in the professional field, most probably you have a gifted story and yeah.
Gloria: 37:33
That's also like to make a side note. If people are still wondering and that was also my conclusion is, if you are so interested in giftedness, you dig deeper, even though you go away from the topic, but you go back to it, you go to conferences, you read about it like at some point, when someone is and even for your professional journey, I'm going to say the same when you are super interested by a topic and you want to know more and more and more, there is something there for you. It's impossible, like if you just heard once about giftedness, read I don't know an article and you're like, oh yes, I am gifted, and then you forget about the topic. Well, I don't know if it's really relevant for you, but if you are here listening to one podcast after the other, reading one book after the other, like it's not a coincidence, and I would like to say also that there's no gate.
Nadja: 38:26
You don't need to show the IQ test score at the entrance to this podcast to the communities, the IQ test score at the entrance to this podcast to the communities. You know you can really enter freely and you are embraced in this space and that I felt. You know me entering. Everybody was very generous with their resources, with knowledge. I felt really embraced and if you go into a space where you don't feel embraced, then it's the space, it's not you, and if you go into a space where you don't feel embraced, then it's the space.
Gloria: 38:53
It's not you, yeah, and it's so important that you emphasize that. I think it's a permission, like authorization for many.
Nadja: 39:03
Yeah, so, and you're embracing, embarking into a new journey and I think you would like to ask people to come and join you. So please share your new endeavor. And where can people contact you and for what are they signing up?
Gloria: 39:20
So first, just my website, gloriajensencom, is like a perfect way to contact me, but then also I know you are going to put the links to all my social media and so on. So I'm creating a podcast that is called the Inner Space, because that's for me, where also I help mostly people is in their inner space, what's happening inside of them, emotionally, mentally, so that then, once we've done the work, they can go into the world and put the actions in place that are supported by their inner world. And I'm creating a podcast where, of course, I will share my own experiences, my own stories, but also have guests and not professional guests, but you can be a guest, which means you can receive a free coaching that is recorded so that you have first, like, solutions to your problems and also help others moving through their journey. And, like, there are three main pillars First, I would say if the interview resonated with you, then I might be the right person for you, because I really do not believe, like every coach is for everyone. Like you need to have a resonance with the person's words or perspective. So if you have that, then there is a higher possibility that the person will have an impact and really help you in your transformation. So I would say, if people resonate with what I've shared and they want to benefit from a session, it can be anonymous. So there is like that they can decide and it's really just audio and it's like there are three main pillars.
Gloria: 40:50
I help really people around self-knowledge, as you said. That's the fundament, so knowing themselves better. For that I also use human design. I don't know if you've ever heard about it, nadia, never. It's amazing. I love this. Human design is helping you get your user's manual, like understanding how your energy works, how your intuition works, like how do you take decisions. It's an amazing tool. I've made so many, I've used so many tools, like the MBTI process, communication, the Enneagram, like there are so many things, and for me, that's the tool where I'm like whoa, that's very relevant because, again, I've trained myself into it. I'm using it for with my clients for more than two years now and I see how helpful it is for them.
Gloria: 41:36
So I use whether it's like my knowledge about high sensitivity, about giftedness, about human design I use it so that people can understand a bit more how they operate, know more about themselves, because I always say, like from self-knowledge emerges direction, and direction is the third pillar, which is creating, like orienting yourself, guiding yourself in your life. Of course, professionally is a big part, because work is a big part of our life. So creating a professional project, whether it's your career or your business, that is aligned with who you are. So then I go back to the first pillar, which is about self-knowledge, and the second, second pillar, in in the middle, is really about that self-mastery work around your emotions and the mental part. So basically it's like know yourself, do the inner work, because of course you can know, okay, that's the path.
Gloria: 42:31
But then you start thinking am I good enough to do it, or will I succeed, or will people want to embark on that journey with me? And then it's like so that's why you can have I don't know holes, a big cascade fire, whatever going on on your path. So it's like, let's address the emotional and mental side of of taking your path. And also as a gifted person, you know, depending on the experience you've had, if you realize, okay, I'm gifted and I'm like, oh, now I realize all my gifts and I don't know a certain area of my life I want it to be my professional path.
Gloria: 43:03
And then all these maybe also traumatic, or stories that I've experienced come up and and then I'm like, oh, who am I to to do that? I'm like that needs to be addressed so that you really embark on a journey that is aligned with who you are. So if people feel that's a like a, an approach, a methodology that speaks to them, then they're super welcome. We'll have the link, so they just have to complete a form. I ask a few questions to prepare the session and then they hop on and we do the recording and then they help themselves and others through that session.
Nadja: 43:37
So it's a win, win, win, yes, amazing. And that link they can go to your Gloria Jensen coaching. Or can you say the link again?
Gloria: 43:47
The best way I would say is I've sent you the link so you can put it so they access directly the form. I have it also as my link in bio in my Instagram account. Way I would say is I've sent you the link so you can put it so they access directly the form. I have it also as my link in bio in my Instagram account, so like okay, probably the best is in the show notes, so they have direct access to it and I don't get lost anywhere.
Nadja: 44:04
Exactly, we will put all the links in the show notes, also to your coaching services, obviously, and your website, and so can can navigate and find everything. Is there anything else that you would like to share? Something you wish people knew, something you wish you knew earlier in your journey?
Gloria: 44:23
I believe for me it's really giving them the hope, the I was going to say motivation, but it's not even the right word the like, the longing they have inside to really create a life that is fulfilling and where they're like whoa, I'm happy every day to wake up. It's so worth it like. I know it's not easy. Depending on our story and our education, we might have to face bigger or smaller obstacles, but it's like your life is so much worth and that was my learning from my journey is like don't waste it.
Gloria: 45:00
Being someone else doing something that is not you. Like really your heart. You will feel so much peace and serenity in your heart and your soul if you are on the path that is you. And there you will find so much strength as well, because you are connected to that deeper mission and purpose in you and like, okay, I'm going to face my fears because that's so important, that's what I'm going to contribute to the world. So please, if you are not already on that journey, embark. And if you are on that like, keep doing the work. Like your happiness and your contribution is so worth and so much worth for you and for others.
Nadja: 45:37
We need you. Yes, we need you all. Thank you so much, and thank you so much for being here, gloria and I'm so excited to be able to share this recording with the world. So thank you, thank you for being here you know, recording with with the world.
Gloria: 45:54
So thank you, thank you for being here. Thank you so much, nadia, huge gratitude for making that space for me and really congrats also for your podcast, because I know many people benefit from it thank you, bye, bye, bye.
Nadja: 46:06
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